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It is the greatest anime series ever created and one of the highest achievements in international science fiction, period. And fans of Hideaki Anno's Neon Genesis Evangelion have had a long, long wait for the latest installment of the saga.

Long unsatisfied with the conclusion to the television series due to concessions made for budgetary reasons, Anno re-launched Evangelion in 2007 with the Rebuild Of Evangelion series. Envisioned as a four feature film cycle that would both re-tell the original story and re-build it into its intended shape, the series launched with Evangelion 1.0: You Are (Not) Alone in 2007 and followed in 2009 with Evangelion 2.0: You Can (Not) Advance, both of which were enhanced and modified slightly for subsequent video releases.

The Evangelion relaunch has proven an enormous success both critically and commercially and so fans were expected Evangelion 3.0 to roll out quickly but things have been strangely quiet on that front with rumblings of personal disagreements between the director and producers cropping up.

Well, Evangelion 3.0 may not exist yet but it will soon and the first teaser has arrived to prove it. Dubbed Evangelion Q, or Evangelion: Quickening has just released a brief fifteen second teaser featuring Asuka Langley piloting her Eva unit in a space battle. Check it out below.

Evangelion 3.0 is now headed for an unspecified 2012 release.
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Ard VijnAugust 26, 2011 9:09 PM

"...with rumblings of personal disagreements between the director and producers cropping up..."

And there goes my last hope for a coherent ending to the saga. They might have had one outlined at some point in time, but Anno will probably want to add a half hour of live action to depict an alternate universe, or showing a cinema full of people looking shocked at a cinema full of people. Probably something even weirder.

Then again, it seriously wouldn't truly be "Evangelion" without this project going wildly off the rails in its ending. It will be viewed, debated for decades, misunderstood, reviled, renowned, and finally (after someone gives yet Anno another pile of money) remade.

Chances are I will still love it regardless...

By the way, weren't the last two films supposed to be released REALLY close together? They were even rumored to show the same story, only seen from different viewpoints. Now THAT sounds like Anno!

huffy08August 26, 2011 9:52 PM

"It is the greatest anime series ever created and one of the highest achievements in international science fiction, period."

This line again? Really? Hell, it isn't even the best thing Gainax has ever done. Don't get me wrong, Eva is a good anime. But the only reason why its more popular than shows like Texhnolyze and RahXephon (an Eva "rip-off" that is actually superior in every possible way) is because it relentlessly panders to fanboys. I know its pointless to argue with someone's personal opinion and I give it a lot of credit for being so out there but are you really trying to say that its on-par with things like Dune and 2001?
I actually liked the first movie but the second one is a grand clusterfuck of overindulgence and fan-service with awful plotting that's all but impenetrable to anyone who hasn't seen the entire show. I wouldn't be surprised if the main reason they came up with the new girl is to sell more merchandise (that accusation is a bit premature but given how shamelessly Gaixax has milked the series you can't put it past them).

Todd BrownAugust 27, 2011 5:00 AM

The original plan was simultaneous release, yes. Not sure if that's still happening.

Todd BrownAugust 27, 2011 5:02 AM

Yes, actually, in terms of complexity and underlying philosophy I'd say it compares pretty favorably to 2001 and Dune.

isfjinfjAugust 27, 2011 5:12 AM

Or perhaps people have more interesting, thoughtful, personalised and varied reasons for their individual tastes and preferences (whatever they may be) than you can cover with reductive, sneering remarks about "pandering" and "fanboys"?

I am also one of those perverted unbalanced freaks who values both NGE and RahXephon just about equally.

isfjinfjAugust 27, 2011 6:05 AM

By "wildly off the rails" do you mean that End of Evangelion was a misstep/failure? If so, why? And do you mean that EoE was "incoherent"? Again, how so? Aside from some plot technicalities (eg. in just what way does Gendo's plan differ from that of Seele?) I think it's pretty much completely coherent, including all that meta stuff (live action footage, etc.)

Cde.August 27, 2011 11:46 AM

"RahXephon (an Eva "rip-off" that is actually superior in every possible way)"
No, it really isn't.
The reason that Texhnolyze and RahXephon are less popular is simply that they are less appealing. Eva has some magical blend. And as much as I enjoyed Texhnolyze, it's nothing compared to the power that Eva carries.

macblogperuAugust 27, 2011 11:51 AM

Wow, I can tell you really do hate Evangelion with a passion don't you? Well, if you really hate it that much, I have a 2-step solution for your problem:

1. Don't watch it.

2. Stop whining.


huffy08August 27, 2011 2:46 PM

Yeah, calling it a good anime is REALLY hating a show with a passion. I'm totally being the fanboy in this situation!
I really should have known this was going to happen.

huffy08August 27, 2011 3:00 PM

I probably should have worded it differently and didn't mean for that remark to be sneering. I have a good friend who is a fanatic about the series because of its writing and its ideas so I understand that there are people who love it for reasons other than the girls. That said, I don't think anyone can argue that Eva would be the sensation it is if it hadn't exploited the pet peeves of otaku. Which isn't a huge deal unless the creators don't bother to write a half-decent script because they know people will still love it if they pander to those pet peeves, which is exactly what happened with the second film. I know they have a ton of ground to cover with these films but at least try to write something with decent pacing. The thing felt like a half dozen episodes glued together telling an arc that needed at least ten episodes to really work.

huffy08August 27, 2011 3:14 PM

It's not the shows complexity I have a problem with, its the underlying mechanics of the storytelling. The writing and the characterizations are a too blunt, the symbolism is throwaway and the worldview, while fascinating, strikes me as rather immature. Which may have been the point given who the protagonist is and what Anno was trying to work out but still. The mythology is certainly fascinating, worthy of scholarly study even, but its execution is too flawed to be considered an all-time classic IMO.

hiroaki.jAugust 27, 2011 5:13 PM

Well, it's not a rip of Eva in any meaningful way. It owes more to Brave Raideen and Megazone 23 than it does to Eva.

But in my opinion it does some things better than Eva, and other things not as well. In some ways it doesn't feel like RahXephon is as ambitious, but structurally it often feels more solid and less haphazard.

Also, I think anyone who tries to say Eva isn't successful in part because it panders is just being naive. To use some previous examples, it's as if they placed a slave Leia scene in Dune or Blade Runner every 15 minutes. Yes, some of that is done in a meta-fuck-with-otaku way. But it's no accident that Eva is it's own little sub-industry.

DravntAugust 28, 2011 3:33 AM

Don't worry, huffy08.

I completely agree with you on your opinion.

Calling anything "The Best" is very subjective to the individual's personal tastes.

In my opinion, I disagree that Eva is "the greatest anime series ever created." Period.

isfjinfjAugust 28, 2011 1:40 PM

No worries. It's my fault for misjudging your tone! I shouldn't have been so snippy anyway :)

You're criticising Rebuild here but I was responding to a claim you made about NGE (original series), which is a series about which I give a damn in a significant way :) I'm not especially enthused about these reimaginings (though "they didn't even try" is I think empty rhetoric).

Claims that "the only reason anyone likes x is because y" generally seem reductive and dishonest to me. "The only reason why its more popular [...] is because it relentlessly panders to fanboys." Oh come on. Let's play that game with other great series: "the only reason anyone likes Utena is because of all of those sexy half-naked elfin bishonen"; "the only reason anyone likes Legend of the Galactic Heroes is because it has awesome spaceship battles"; "the only reason anyone likes Escaflowne is because of those giant robots and the catgirl". There is no way on earth RahXephon is "innocent" here: all those hot babes (designed for optimal attractiveness, I'd imagine) and giant robots and whatnot? Singling out NGE for "exploiting the pet peeves of otaku"? Oh please. I'd love to know why Rah is so terribly special in this regard. Plenty of anime series, including many of the great ones, and including RahXephon, are filled to the brim with "stuff that appeals to otaku". I don't see that as an inherently bad thing. There are great "otaku" series and terrible ones. Texhnolyze (which I agree is an absolutely incredible series) is certainly further removed from typical "otaku" interests than NGE, Utena, Escaflowne, RahXephon, etc., but I don't think that is an inherent... "boon", if you will. Personally, my feeling is that it just makes them different... just as being film noir should not "count against" a film, etc., etc.

It also seems a bit obtuse to make the sweeping claim that NGE/EoE "panders to fanboys" without any qualifications whatsoever. It's very subversive in a number of ways. This is sometimes I think overstated: the series feels too "improvised" to have been intended as a "deconstruction" from the get-go as some claim. But I do think it becomes very subversive: that live-action footage, with the absurd papier-mache Misato, Asuka and Rei (and then the three voice actresses) standing in the middle of the crowd: this meta segment is reaching a hand out to those who have shut out the world and who use anime to comfort themselves, and encouraging them to "return to reality". Then there are those fan letters (and the infamous "death threat" letter) that flash on the screen when Shinji chooses to end Instrumentality. Then there's that masturbation scene (after over 20 episodes' worth of previews with Misato promising "more fan service!!!!") By EoE Anno is comparing the obsessive otaku's "retreat into the fantasy/wish-fulfillment world of anime" to Shinji's retreat into Instrumentality/nothingness. This seems to me to be quite the opposite of "pandering to fanboys". If NGE pandered so relentlessly to otaku I'm not sure why Shinji (who I regard as one of the great anime characters) is, as far as I can tell, one of the most reviled characters of all time in anime fandom.

Also, for many of us "evageeks", Anno's cinematic craft is at least as important as the writing.

isfjinfjAugust 28, 2011 3:09 PM

What about the series' "worldview" do you find immature? Anno is of course not agreeing with Shinji that "everyone who doesn't care about me should just die." Do you mean the "message" it's driving home towards the end, perhaps? I think the emphasis on a three-tier process of identification (how you perceive yourself; how others perceive you; how you perceive others' perceptions of yourself) makes a lot of sense, as does the warning of the dangers of basing your sense of self-worth entirely on your inevitably limited (and possibly completely mistaken) understanding of how others perceive you. I don't know you at all so I'm not sure if you've been in therapy before due to self-esteem issues, social anxiety disorder, or anything like that, but this sort of thing is very familiar to me from my own time spent in therapy. Much of what you need to learn to do is to fight your own assumptions about what you think other people think of you ("they only pretend to care about me because I can pilot Eva", for example), or to fight the feeling that you are "worthless" just because you don't have anyone who cares about you, and that sort of thing. When you're on your own like that, socially anxious and depressed to the point of being catatonic, you need to try to find a way to care about yourself, and value yourself, before you can hope to form meaningful bonds with others. I think this seems very true for characters like Shinji, Asuka, Gendo, Ritsuko... But I'm just guessing here. I don't know specifically what you think is immature :P
Re: "bluntness". Again I'm not sure specifically what sort of thing you mean. If I hazard a guess: perhaps you feel that, for example, the final two episodes (and the comparable scenes in episodes 16 and 20 and EoE) "bash you over the head" and do too much "telling" and not enough "showing"? If so, might I suggest, without wanting to sound like a cop-out: different strokes? I admit I am biased in that I may have a high tolerance for "telling" and for what others might call "head-bashing": I love Monster dearly and was never bothered in the least by Tenma (figuratively) wandering around with a megaphone shouting that "ALL LIFE HAS VALUE!"; I love Legend of the Galactic Heroes and don't mind in the least all the editorializing "talking heads" scenes with two characters discussing some political issue or another for several minutes; I love the scenes in Utena's "Black Rose Arc" in which troubled characters enter Mikage's confessional/therapy elevator and "tell us" all their problems and insecurities. But even so, I think my feelings for those scenes in NGE (and the final two episodes really strike a chord for me) come partly from the fact that, while they may be "blunt" in that they are very direct, they also seem to me very "sharp" in that they capture *perfectly* (again, I especially mean the final two episodes here) thought processes that I have been through time and time again during the darkest periods of my depression. And when so much of depression does, for many, indeed involve lying in the darkness with these thoughts, I'm not sure if "telling" and "showing" don't perhaps blend together here. I also find Anno's visual presentation of this material to be riveting throughout, and EoE especially has always struck me (and I can speak only from my own experience: I don't claim to know how it feels for everyone!) as a frighteningly accurate expressionistic rendering of clinical depression. As for characterisation being "blunt", again I'm not clear on what you mean. I suppose they might be painted in relatively broad "anime" brushstrokes (though no more so than the characters in eg. Utena, etc., etc.) where there is a lot of focus on the "BIG" emotions and not so much on little nuances and shades of emotion, and their interactions don't give me the feeling of almost-realism I get when I watch a series like NANA (which I love), but again... I'm not sure this needs to be such a bad thing really. But I won't keep writing on this as I don't know for sure what you mean...
I assume you mean the "Christian" symbolism as the mother/womb and sex symbolism is evidently not "throwaway", but even then I've always felt that the Genesis/Crucifixion imagery is perfectly fitting in its own loose way for a story about paradise lost/regained.

DangerManAwesomeAugust 28, 2011 5:31 PM

It's not "the best anime series ever created" to me. It actually ranks pretty low in my opinion.

I'm willing to give this one a shot so long as it cleans up a lot of what irritated me about the original series. That said, i'm eagerly awaiting at least ONE more season or film of the further adventures of the Bebop crew, in what i feel ranks as one of the best sci fi anime series in existence: Cowboy Bebop.

Todd BrownAugust 28, 2011 6:39 PM

The religious symbolism actually goes well beyond 'Christian', actually. There are healthy doses of Jewish kaballah in there along with a number of other influences.

quartet4August 29, 2011 8:48 AM

Finally some footage! The teaser says the release date is Fall 2012.

Ard VijnAugust 29, 2011 11:46 AM

Well, the ending has always been problematic to say the least.

In NGE (original series) the slideshow that was ep. 25 and ep. 26 left people bewildered, confused and downright angry. As the series was revealed to be hugely more successful than expected it left Gainax scrambling to do a reboot.

So we got NGE redone, with additional footage added to ep. 21-24 and ep. 25 and ep. 26 replaced with the movie (although they can coexist, try it: it's no harder than reconciling anything else in NGE).

Then the intended movie got delayed and replaced with "Death & Rebirth", which is a series rehash with the first half of the intended movie tagged on. This was followed by EOE (End of Evangelion) which contained the second half of "Death & Rebirth" as its first half, followed by the end credits, after which followed the one TRUE ending of Evangelion with scratches, live footage, copies of the death threats made to Anno by angry fans, etcetera.

If you think NGE ep. 1-24 and EOE together make a coherent story, good for you! Your mind filled the gaps and managed to keep it awesome. My mind didn't. EOE is plenty awesome in its own right and shows an almost ludicrous amount of balls by Anno and Gainax, but it failed to answer any of the questions I was left with after the first 24 episodes, same as the original ep. 25 and ep. 26 did.

Now, with this new series of movies I had hoped that maybe Anno would tighten up the story and... well, TELL one coherent story from beginning till end. The first film did a pretty good job but then again, so did the first 20 episodes of the original series. And by coherent I mean that a story is understandable for most people without having to think half of it up by myself. I don't mean it has to be spoonfed but a bit more "cause and effect" would be much appreciated.

isfjinfjAugust 29, 2011 1:45 PM

"[...] ep. 25 and ep. 26 left people bewildered, confused and downright angry."
--- Not everyone. I know that I myself and many others admire them a great deal.
"[...] (although they can coexist, try it: it's no harder than reconciling anything else in NGE)."
--- I've having a comprehension fail for some reason, sorry! Do you mean it is or is not hard to reconcile them? If you mean that it is difficult, I can't say I agree. There were a couple of debates on this topic over at but I've forgotten the details: what do you feel is the difficulty? They seem to me to slot together quite neatly.
"If you think NGE ep. 1-24 and EOE together make a coherent story, good for you! Your mind filled the gaps and managed to keep it awesome. My mind didn't."
--- What did you feel was incoherent? I agree of course that there are a few "plot holes" or ambiguities or details which could have been more clearly explained: How do the plans of Gendo and Seele differ? What is Yui's plan that has Fuyutsuki tell her "I support your intentions - not Seele's"? Why does Kaworu descend to Terminal Dogma if Seele mentioned that Adam's body is in Gendo? A few things like that. But most of these strike me as hiccups either in world-building or sub-plotting rather than anything that comes anywhere close to undermining the very "coherence" of the narrative, if that's what you mean. Are those the sort of things that bother you? Or something else?

sitenoiseAugust 29, 2011 4:45 PM

If someone were to dive into all this Evangelion stuff virginly, is there a table of contents you might recommend? Such as, perhaps (or maybe not) watching eps 1-24 of the series, skipping 25 & 26 and watching the first movie, or skipping that and watching 2.0 or something. I'm completely lost, but this seems like something I might look into some day and it would be nice to have a curated table of contents to make the experience less chaotic.

Ard VijnAugust 29, 2011 8:59 PM

All your points are valid and well-made. But... well.

I knew of the existence of Neon Genesis Evangelion (it's hard to miss) but I only got seriously into manga and anime about ten years ago. I was curious and wanted to check out the series, so the wait was on for an edition on DVD which was either good or good enough for the price. Eventually, that silver-colored set with the slimpacks (the ADV Platinum Complete edition) was what I bought. It had the 5.1 soundtrack, the extra inbetween frames for added smoothness, and episode 21-24 both in original and extended version. So I plowed right in and was rewarded with what is undoubtedly one of my most favorite series ever, until episode 20 or so. After that it became increasingly clear that Anno was never going to answer the questions I had. And he didn't: episode 25 and 26 are certainly remarkable but focus so intently on Shinji that I felt slapped in the face. This was what I got for caring so much about the other characters? The ending might just as well have Shinji waking up in a normal world without EVAs and angels, and saying "Oof, it was just a dream!". Coherent? Probably. Satisfying? Hell no!

The extended editions shed some extra light on events but not much, and the movie "The End of Evangelion" mostly added an extra (and HUGELY epic) chapter instead of explaining the 24 previous ones.
The questions you yourself mention are certainly amongst those I had myself. Yes, I myself can concoct a storyline which makes sort-of sense. No, I'm not sure that is the actual story Hideaki Anno wanted to tell.

Thing is, whenever I discuss Evangelion with other fans (because I myself am indeed a big fan) I encounter people who know loads more about the background than I do. And sometimes they have that extra information from the manga, sometimes from the booklets included in the two-disc special editions (but missing from the Platinum Complete set...). Me, I've only seen the series and the films. Well, and an artbook or two, three...
But my point is that I still have trouble interpreting what happens in the series at several points.

Actually, the ambiguity in the storyline may have been one of Evangelion's stronger points. It kept the debates going for well over a decade. By initially not providing a wrap-up ending (but promising one for the future) Anno put gasoline on the fan-flames, and "End of Evangelion" is such a gloriously over-the-top piece of art that it indeed functions as a finale of sorts, but provides either too much or too little. I can't help thinking of Anno laughing his ass off behind me when I watch it. I don't think it's a failure, or misguided and it's a unique piece of work, but it did not provide me with the closure I was craving.

I'd have to rewatch the whole lot to get more into specifics, but I hope this explains a bit how I feel about the ending(s) of Evangelion so far. And I don't think the still upcoming Evangelion movies will provide me with what I want or need from Evangelion. But I also don't think they will be boring, or easy cashgrabs. Chances are the ending will, once more, be magnificently different from what I expect or want.

Ard VijnAugust 29, 2011 9:08 PM

A valid question, sitenoise!
So far you have three different paths that I'd recommend:

-Original: just watch episode 1 - 26.

-Enhanced: watch episode 1 - 20, then 21 - 24 in extended form, then the movie "End of Evangelion".

-Movie version: Evangelion 1:11, Evangelion 2:22, and the two upcoming films.

I followed the "original" path, and started again at the extended episode 21 for the "enhanced" path. And now I'm doing the movies.

Ard VijnAugust 29, 2011 9:15 PM

Good point on Anno's depiction of depression. He was himself suffering heavily from depression at the time and being treated for related illnesses, and the way he shows just how rotten to the core a person feels who is clinically depressed is amazing.

Major_RagerAugust 29, 2011 11:04 PM

Why do most hardcore Evangelion fans always got to make a point to let the rest of us know how incredibly easy they found NGE to understand as if those of us who were rightfully confused with it are retarded?

If the show and subsequent films were all that coherent and shit, they wouldn't have bothered remaking them.

Major_RagerAugust 29, 2011 11:11 PM

I have the entire (thus far) series of the Evangelion manga (except vol 9, so if you got it and want to sell it to me...) and every volume comes with a neat little glossary of terms and stuff, and that helped a lot for me in understanding a lot of what i saw in the show. The manga is worth checking out, but don't get it mixed up with crap like Angelic Days, Shinji Ikari Raising, or Campus Apocalypse (actually, the latter was pretty neat still).

Major_RagerAugust 29, 2011 11:15 PM

I agree 100%

Major_RagerAugust 29, 2011 11:20 PM

I haven't even seen RahXephon before, only heard of it, but I literally just checked out the opening and a few AMV's for it online and if we were to judge by style, animation, and design alone, Evangelion is by far the winner.

Ard VijnAugust 30, 2011 4:28 AM

It is probably like one of those pictures with a hidden image within it. Once you see it, it's hard to understand why other people don't. Once you know what's happening in, say, David Lynch's "Mulholland Drive" it's very hard to discuss it with someone who keeps saying that the story doesn't make sense. It's also very hard to explain to your older sister why "Star Wars" is so cool.

It's often not just a load of chest-thumping with the purpose of saying "I am smarter than you" (at least that's not the vibe I get from isfjinfj) but a frustration with other people walking around with misconceptions about something you dearly love. And "Evangelion" in any of its incarnations certainly leaves room for such frustration.

JoelAugust 30, 2011 5:09 AM

ive been following nge for a few years now, gaining the understanding and factual knowledge never came easy too me, i think it just depends on your level of interest and patience, nge isint something u can sit down watch once and expect to understand right off the bat, there are too many nuances and complexities about it that take repeated viewings to even begin to decipher, you have to think about that stuff for days on end in some cases, there are plenty of websites with all sorts of info on this series, but you have to start somewhere stuff wont be handed to you, or at least dont expect it too.

Ard VijnAugust 30, 2011 5:13 AM

Very well-written!
You targeted specific scenes I had wanted to elaborate on, the masturbation scene in EoE in particular. The first time I saw it I was stunned. I could not believe anyone had dared put that in there, and any distaste for the previous scene having included fanservice involving a comatose girl disappeared immediately. Anyone watching EoE for seeing Asuka naked got a slap on the wrist right there. Even though there is plenty of ecchi fanservice in Evangelion there is always some ulterior motive (besides the obvious financial one) behind it. There is almost always an artistic justification.

Also, as a general note: I love how the discussion so far has been informative and civil.

MartenAugust 30, 2011 4:40 PM

Ard're the consummate politician.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I didn't get NGE. So, for those whom are intellectually superior to me, please explain to me what the show is about or provide a link which has a coherent explanation of it. I know many of us whom are in the same boat would appreciate that more than the usual "what is there to get?" dismissive retort.

Ard VijnAugust 31, 2011 4:30 AM

"Consummate politician?"
Them's fighting words!


Cde.August 31, 2011 8:16 AM

It's about a lot of things. Primarily it's about the pain of being disconnected from other people, so we can never really know what they are thinking, or how they perceive us. This means that there's always a fear of how the other person might react when we interact with them. Human interaction is dangerous, but it's also where we gain happiness. For depressed and withdrawn people like Shinji, the pain of interaction seems too great, and they'd rather immerse themselves in fantasy. Anno is directly addressing this message to withdrawn anime otaku, but it's a broad message that can appeal to a lot of people.
It's also a metaphor for growing up, phrased in Freudian terms. The almost-a-love-triangle among the pilots represents the choice between clinging to one's attachment to their mother, vs sexual maturity. This side of the show merges with the other I've described; Rei becomes associated with the mother, fantasy and the Third Impact/instrumentality, while Asuka is associated with the sexuality, reality and the difficulty of connecting with other humans.

Really, it's got nothing to do with intellectual superiority. As Ard Vjin eloquently put it, it's like a hidden image picture. Once you see it, you're surprised that anybody else can't.

MartenAugust 31, 2011 4:34 PM

Cde....thanks for taking the time to shed some light on the innards of Evangelion story. I think if the NGE hardcore fans spent half the energy providing meaningful insight on the series - as you did - and explaining the symbolism in it rather than scolding those who criticize it for being incoherent or filled with abstract subplots/imagery, many might re-visit it and have a new appreciation for it on a second viewing.

Ard VijnSeptember 1, 2011 4:35 AM

But... I like Rei better than Asuka.
What does that say about me? Grrrrr...

terebi-kunSeptember 1, 2011 8:16 PM

Unfortunately, the fanservice in the new films (specially 2.0) seems a lot more obvious,specially in the addition of new female characters. The Asuka scene with her new plugsuit is smart and self-conscious, but (unlike the masturbation scene) strictly for titillation purposes. It is one of the few bad missteps of these films.

sitenoiseSeptember 8, 2011 11:01 PM

I started watching this (up to ep14) and was quite enthralled by it until the introduction of Asuka. OK, she's a self-absorbed, whiny little brat. 100% predictable in what she says every single time, and 100% uninteresting. 100% annoying. Honestly, she's such a weak-ass lame character I've lost respect for the series and have considered giving up on it. Tell me she gets interesting, please.

I'm in love with Rei.

Ard VijnSeptember 9, 2011 6:16 AM

What happens WITH Asuka gets very interesting. We're talking catatonia-and-suicide category interesting (I'm not saying that is what actually happens to her, but that is the level of severity we're talking about). You are supposed to hate her and Anno uses that to great effect later on.

Normally a series will build up towards Shinji and Asuka growing to like each other regardless of their differences. Not Evangelion though... Asuka gets worse and worse. I advise you to hang on, there comes a point when some...thing corrects her on her behavior in no uncertain terms.

I still hate her though because she takes up so much time, and I'd have loved Evangelion to keep focusing on Shinji and Rei. Now THERE is mystery, adventure and an ever increasing sense of dread!

sitenoiseSeptember 9, 2011 11:09 AM

Perfect reply. Thanks for taking the time to share it. This is my first foray into an anime series and I am, for the most part, greatly impressed with the intelligence and pace of the thing. Asuka just took some of the wind out of my sails. It was a big enough investment that I'd probably keep going no matter what, but I did start thinking of who I might give it to, rather than treasuring it. Most of what I've read about it suggests that it does get even better from here on out, so I'm gonna stick with it.