Jan Harlan
Actor, Producer, Brother-in-law to Stanley Kubrick
One of the most astonishing things in this exchibit is the letter where you tell Stanley about your discovery of the Steadicam.
Yes, I remember that well. It's very exciting to see that.
One of the things about the myth of Kubrick is that he did everything himself, that he was a singular artist and that everything was to his precision.
As one of his principal collaborators, could you talk about breaking down the myth of what Stanley was?
Of course, he was the filmmaker. He decided everything. But I for example suggested music, a lot of music, but he decided which one to use. I didn't make
the choice.
He said "I like that, go and look for more like that." It was a sideline of my job. I loved it. It was wonderful.
We were few people and everybody had to do everything a little bit, depending on what your inclination was. So he was very open to suggestions. But he
decided. He was the boss. There was no arguing.
It is easy to mythologize what he did. To see it as somebody who was making things that no other director could do in the sense that we look back on
these works as almost masterpieces in the way that we look at Da Vinci. As somebody who knew him so well, could you talk about the struggles, about how
he saw his films?
Take a typical case, which is Barry Lyndon. At that time, the film speed was 100 ASA, you couldn't push it. It became very grainy. The
fastest lens was F2, so you are limited. How do you get the atmosphere of the 18th century on the screen? It was impossible. Therefore you get
silly pictures with a candlestick where there is so much fill light the whole thing is meaningless.
He wanted to get the Gainsborough atmosphere onto the screen. We found this F0.7 lens [the famous NASA lens from Zeiss]. It didn't work on the film camera.
We had to change the BNC to take this lens.
This lens had a real problem. There's no depth of field on the 0.7. It's horrible, it's very difficult.
But he succeeded in getting really an exposure just with candles. And he got this atmosphere on to the screen. Today, you don't need it anymore. Today, you
have 1.2 is a standard set and you have 3000 ASA in film. Anyway, now you have digital and the whole thing is no longer necessary, but that's one case
where he was struggling and fighting to get something on to the screen.
The Steadicam you mentioned is fantastic for obviously avoiding tracks, you run up stairs, you follow the little guy on his wheel, that's just wonderful.
That's an incredibly important point - He was not afraid of new technology, new film technology, the issue was a story that technology was used to tell
the story. So how would he have felt about shooting on digital?
I think he definitely would have used it. No doubt about it, he would have used it. It's there. It's there to remain.
Film is going out, there's no question about it. I'm not saying maybe totally. For example, he was a great believer in front projection and in moving front
projection. I could easily see provided you still have a lab that develops 65 mm, that you do 70mm fine grain or front projection plates, and then you do
digital photography, but this is all theory, because he is no longer with us.
As a producer of some of this films, are you pleased to see, would you rather see a 35mm struck print of the film, or would you rather see a pristine
4k master?
If it's a very good negative which is clean, I'd very much like to see a 35 mm print, but it becomes more and more theoretical. Do I prefer the new mix on
digital to a clapped out print which is yellow and scratched? I prefer the digital.
But some don't and you know that's the fetish for film.
Yeah, well, that's right, but it becomes cinematheque material soon, that's what it is.
Of all of the films, is there one moment that really still strike home to you that might not be as appreciated as some?
Yes. It's because it's the last film. It's Eyes Wide Shut, definitely, which he considered his greatest contribution to the art of
filmmaking. Definitely that.
There are many scenes which are hard to understand, people have to go a second time, which is hard to do. If they didn't like it the first time, they are
not willing to go a second time, so that's a real problem.
The biggest problem with Eyes Wide Shut is that you have to see it twice. That's a disadvantage, I admit that. But hey, that's how it is!