Have Your Say: The Concrete Shoes of Alien Expectations.

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Have Your Say: The Concrete Shoes of Alien Expectations.

Look, regarding Ridley Scott's upcoming film "Prometheus": I'm doing my utmost to avoid spoilers and keep my expectations at a 'meh' level for my own safety, but I do write for a movie site and as such I also need to keep abreast of current proceedings. So yes, I've seen the trailers.

Ever since I accidentally saw on CNN in 1991 that Arnold Schwarzenegger was going to be one of the GOOD guys in "Terminator 2" I've had a bit of a laisser-faire approach to spoilers. I try to avoid seeing them (and try never to put any in my articles) but I do not go too far out of my way. Story is only one part of the intricate whole which is a movie, and was my surprise at Arnie being good going to be more valid in the cinema than it was when I experienced it in front of the telly, a few months earlier?

Fast forward twenty years and we now have Ripley, oops, RIDLEY Scott returning to the franchise he inadvertantly made nuclear with its first installment: "Alien".
Or is he?
Prometheus brought fire from the Gods and gave it to the humans. Ridley Scott now seems to be playing with fire as well, or the marketing at least seems to be running a jojo game with the Alien fanboys, constantly downplaying, then reinforcing the perceived links between "Prometheus" and "Alien". The evidence that "Prometheus" is a straight prequel to "Alien" is becoming ridiculously overwhelming at this point.

What strikes me most from the trailers so far is the absolutely stunning beauty of some of the shots, to the point where I'm thinking: can I see that in a few weeks, in IMAX, in 3D? Wow!
I'm not even thinking about the story for a second. Ridley seems to be having a whale of a time with his compositions and that makes me very happy already.

As for the Alien franchise: it has been cracked, broken, glued together again, copied, imitated, used, raped, and incinerated several times already by a wide selection of talented and not-so-talented filmmakers worldwide. "Prometheus" sure won't be able to harm what is left of it.

So my question to you all is: how much do you think "Prometheus" will be able to exist as a standalone film? Do you expect you will consider it to be part of the Alien franchise? Does it NEED the Alien franchise? Does the Alien franchise need "Prometheus"?

Will the Alien expectations mire and sink "Prometheus", and will fanboys be eating Ridley Scott's liver day after day?
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Ard VijnMay 1, 2012 10:56 AM

Note that with that last remark, I do say that Ridley Scott is an immortal titan. Because he is.

SaltonerMay 1, 2012 12:20 PM

No matter what this movie turns out to be like in the story department, their is no doubt that the movie Alien is part of Prometheus. And though this may very well be a stand-a-lone film in the canon of the Alien franchise, I think to truly appreciate what this film is in scope, you MUST know the film Alien as well.

Joshua ChaplinskyMay 1, 2012 1:54 PM

I feel like I've been set up for a huge disappointment, because the trailers have been great and I am super pumped for this.

Kurt HalfyardMay 1, 2012 2:12 PM

You know what? I'm just happy that Prometheus gets a one-word title. No Colons, Zeros, Subtitles or other Brand-Awareness necessities that follows modern blockbuster films around. I'm excited for the film. Ridiculously so.

I'm also happy that it is, of sorts, an Alien Prequel, if only because I happen to like the universe established by the first three Alien films.

doug gabrielMay 1, 2012 5:06 PM

hasn't this sort of been a huge disappointment before the 1st trailer even aired? it's from the writers of COWBOYS AND ALIENS and THE DARKEST HOUR. zero chance those dudes turned in an even remotely creative script

MarsHottentotMay 1, 2012 5:10 PM

I'm actually terrified. Believe me, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that the latest Prometheus trailer made me... emotional with joy, an event no trailer has ever done to me in all my 41 years. If this ends up being a night of fireworks and little else, I imagine my depression will match.

Ard VijnMay 1, 2012 6:04 PM

Same here, my friend, same here... although I do look forward to the visual aspect the most. But if this turns out to be *shudder* a guilty pleasure, then... aw maaaan...

Ard VijnMay 1, 2012 6:06 PM

Three never happened, Kurt.
And maybe after PROMETHEUS, two didn't happen either.

Niels MatthijsMay 1, 2012 6:18 PM

I've been avoiding everything about this film, I know I'm going to see it anyway.
If it's a real Alien prequel though (and it features Giger's Alien) I do hope it finally rips humanity to shreds (or at least, the main characters). If not I'll be as disappointed as I was with the other Alien films.

AirchinapilotMay 1, 2012 6:33 PM

I temper my enthusiasm for every trailer I've seen for this by my kind of ho hum feeling about Ridley Scott. I've never really truly liked him since oh say Black Rain. I've been a huge fan of his visuals, his productions are top notch, but never really felt anything for his characters or ponderous setups beginning with Gladiator. I'm sure Prometheus is going to be a triumph of a production but I hope there's a soul of a story there that is beyond what I can piece together from the trailers.

Mr. CavinMay 1, 2012 10:32 PM

Well said, MarsHottentot. Emotional with joy and emotional with fireworks and little else is exactly how I imagine my night with PROMETHEUS will be. My fingers are crossed though....

JoseMay 1, 2012 11:11 PM

I remember reading a while back how 3 wasnt suppose to happen. At the end of 2, Newt asked Ripley if they could dream and she answered yes. And from what i remember, the franchise was suppose to do the Earth wars. Hell, i was even hoping AvsP was to be close to the comic but really strayed from that. Either way, u cant get rid of these. They adapt and survive, they always find a way. :P

huffy08May 2, 2012 2:21 AM

Hoping it offers a tangible link to the Alien films but stops at that. Based on everything that's been said about Prometheus it sounds like a blockbuster with genuine scope, and I don't mean that in a budgetary sense but an ideas sense. That's virtually unheard of in modern blockbusters. I doubt it's going to be 2001 but the impression the crew has given is that the film will grapple with some pretty large ideas. Making it a straight prequel (meaning the events of its story are completely tied to the Aliens films) runs the risk of limiting that scope. I'd rather they create something mostly independent thematically as well as narrative-wise with some subtle bits of foreshadowing to the previous films.

Right now I'm in a good mindset when it comes to Prometheus: I'm looking forward to seeing it but wouldn't be surprised in the least if it disappoints. Despite what people claim Scott has never been a director able to significantly elevate scripts: with good material his work is excellent but with lacking scripts his films are usually mediocre despite his always impressive sense of composition. So it all comes down to the script, which I'm hoping is solid.

WarmyMay 2, 2012 8:07 PM

I am just glad to see some innovative si-fi hitting the screens. its been a long time since i've seen something in the genre that i've been remotely interested.

bewarethemoonMay 3, 2012 9:37 AM

The fact that it's going to not only answer some big questions about the origins of the Xenomorph/Alien, but make us think, and entertain us at the same time in an adult themed universe, is a really large plus in my eyes.
That it's Ridley Scott, attacking the project with the same verve and fastidiousness he did with Alien, is another major plus, just seeing some of those real sets, the attention to detail, the suits actually have working HD cameras and touch screen devices built in! There's nothing I hate more than having the spell of the future broken with crappy visuals or poorly realised tech when I'm watching a movie....
All the actors seem genuinely pumped about the movie, always a good sign, and even though the trailers have given us a general idea about what's going to happen, I'm sure there's a great deal to reveal, and I'm sure we'll see something in the final reel (scene even) that will get the fanboys drooling and bring us full-circle re: Space Jockey etc... I can't see Ridley disappointing us with Sci-fi, it's something that's too close to his heart, thankfully, he's dumped Russell Crowe and gone for a more cerebral, studious selection ( there will be some laughs in there as well I'm reliably informed!)
I'm not remotely worried about Prometheus, he does gnre films well, even the much maligned Kingdom of Heaven has become a personal favourite of mine, the directors cut is just sumptuous, a real classic epic..
Prometheus can only go one way, and that's to heal the harm done from the dross that came after Alien 3 (directors/workprint is actually pretty good)