Have Your Say: A sequel to JOHN CARTER should be made (or not).

Associate Editor, Features; Rotterdam, The Netherlands (@ardvark23)
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Have Your Say: A sequel to JOHN CARTER should be made (or not).
I can make this article as difficult or basic as I want.
But the simple fact is: I keep reading about "John Carter" and people loving it, not loving it, about it being successful overseas, a bomb domestically...
Now, I'll be seeing the film coming weekend so I am late to the commenting game, but plenty of people have seen it so I have to ask:
Is "John Carter" overcooked overbudgeted Hollywood garbage that needs to be gotten rid off, or a geeky pile of eyecandy that we wholeheartedly embrace? Apparently director Andrew Stanton wanted to gun for a trilogy but voices within the industry think his chances of doing a sequel to this are zilch, zero, based on the film's current performance.

Do we want the rest of John Carter's story or does this franchise need to die as quick a death as possible?


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CarlMarch 13, 2012 12:31 PM

We need a sequel. A quarter of the budget. It's doable.

QinlongMarch 13, 2012 12:43 PM

I loved it, it was ballsy and fun, visually sumptuous and narratively ambitious. I hope it will continue to thrive oversea and will demonstrate strong legs in the US, because I WANT a sequel.

Ard VijnMarch 13, 2012 12:55 PM

Naturally I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it, but I do like the idea of another Edgar Rice Burroughs movie franchise. Lord knows I've watched zillions of Tarzan films as a kid...

brbro4March 13, 2012 1:25 PM

John Carter has a lot of issues (most of which crop up in the latter half), but there's nothing so wrong about it that it deserves to die. I think it's solid entertainment and is at least up there with some of the better Marvel movies. I think the sequel could truly be something special.

alexdictovnyMarch 13, 2012 2:05 PM

Thumbs up (in a Gladiator way, even though there's lots of arguing about the actual gestures used in Roman times... But you get my gist!) - John Carter lives! Forget the negatives - there's far too much good this franchise would bring to our screens and the mood in Hollywood production rooms. Namely, and most importantly, JC is a true adventure story - about the power of dreams and compassion, about savagery and humanity, friendship, love and all that. Now, I'm not saying this was a Raiders of the Lost Arc for generation Z, but it carries the same wishful thinking (that individuals can make a difference? Is that too cheesy?). And we need more of those.

Todd BrownMarch 13, 2012 2:06 PM

The question, ultimately, is going to come down to who is telling the truth about the budget. Some are saying $200 mil, some $250 and some $300. If $300 is correct it doesn't have a prayer because even with good legs this isn't going to pull enough in to pay the theaters their cut, pay for the PR and still make that back, probably not even with video sales. If it's $200 I think it's quite possible.

It's too bad, too, because I think the single biggest issue is Disney's total botching of the marketing campaign. The movie itself is fine. Not brilliant, but fun, and I'd love to see someone else take a crack at it.

LucaMarch 13, 2012 2:11 PM

Hell yes. Loved it. It had some problems, yeah, but none of them your typical "Cookie Cutter, Rushed Production, Hit All Four Quadrants" Hollywood blockbuster problems.

Its biggest, obviously, was a shitty, cowardly and uninformative marketing campaign.

Sean "The Butcher" SmithsonMarch 13, 2012 2:23 PM

The above posts are a bit vindicating.

This movie indeed deserves a sequel.

rondertakerMarch 13, 2012 2:25 PM

needs a sequel. maybe they can keep costs down by doing more pre-vis isntead of having to reshoot but it was an awesome movie and i'd love to see more.

zinjoMarch 13, 2012 3:31 PM

Yes, but with a different production team capable of crafting a coherent story.

There is a reason why execs are wary of fanboys making movies about their passions, they tend to produce films like this one...

stiwheelmanMarch 13, 2012 3:42 PM

Yes! I would love a sequel! The movie was very entertaining and I recommend anyone who was on the fence about it to GO SEE JOHN CARTER. Critics were wrong about this movie. It has love, action, and characters I cared about. Really reminds me of the movies back in the 80's that were in this type of action genre. John Carter has so much more material to be made into a sequel and I would be heartbroken if it were killed so early...

mileswbeMarch 13, 2012 4:04 PM

Saw it on Sunday, and it definitely is a pile of eyecandy that we should wholeheartedly embrace. It was the most fun film I've seen in a long time.

Nick the HatMarch 13, 2012 4:25 PM

I really enjoyed this film quite a bit, full of pulpy goodness in all the right ways, great effects and fun story. Plenty of "Wow" moments. One of the best most entertaining character introductions to a film I've seen in quite a while.
I would completely embrace a sequel. Hell, I'm gonna go see it again.

AirchinapilotMarch 13, 2012 6:04 PM

The theatre I saw it in was sold out so I'm wondering why it hasn't done so well. I thought it was OKAY in the way that the "Mummy" movies are adequately fun, amusing and not bad. I could have lived without seeing it or seeing any sequel but I didn't feel my money was wasted. The lead is fine, SFX fine, everything is just ... fine. It does lack zest but really the audience reacted well to all of the slapstick, the jumping and the derring-do that you would expect. I just never really cared that much. I grew up with ERB, btw, and thought it was a reasonable adaptation.

shonokinMarch 13, 2012 7:37 PM

I've been wanting to see this adapted for 35 years. It was a downer going into it with lowered expectations and with all the surrounding brouhaha, resigned to knowing it probably will not have a sequel or franchise.

As the final minutes of the movie unfolded I felt bummed to think that this was it, that it would not get any further treatments (unless Asylum makes their own sequel to their atrocity). I thought Stanton and crew did a great job bringing across a very tough story to adapt.

WilliamMarch 13, 2012 7:41 PM

Yes, please, I need a sequel. I've waited 37 years for this movie. I'm 50 by the way. This was easily the best adaption of an ERB novel I've ever seen. Not perfect but a lot of fun. I'll be seeing it every weekend until it's gone.

Tuan JimMarch 13, 2012 8:22 PM

Enjoyed it a lot. Love the big scope epic - much like Prince of Persia (visually at least).

Personally I'd prefer a few *properly done* large budget Robert E. Howard or Lovecraft films, but for a pulp adaptation, it worked pretty well.

checkmd5March 13, 2012 11:02 PM

Yes. I would enjoy a follow up adaptation.

JohnMarch 14, 2012 12:29 AM

The movie sucked. I didn't want it to but it did.
I've started listening to the audio book a while back but stopped halfway-ish coz I didn't want to spoil the ending. The film rushed everything and missed the little intricacies that made the book magical imo.
I understand they had to cut to the chase in order to meet the movie's running time, but I still hoped they'd get some of the feel of the book in there. At the end this is just another movie that sacrifices substance over visuals like all the other eye candy movies out there.
First blockbuster of the year? More like first movie of the year that needs a reboot. I hope they release an extended cut that might delve a bit deeper into the story or something at least.
All that being said, the visuals were still great though.

James MarshMarch 14, 2012 4:00 AM

It's far from perfect but I had a lot of fun watching this movie and would love to see a sequel. But sell it as, you know, a sci-fi film next time.

StornMarch 14, 2012 6:56 AM

I had a blast with it. Everyone I saw it with, including my wife who is not a scifi in-the-know in any way shape or form, loved it.

I on the other hand, I read the books at 9 and they had a huge influence on me (I am a freelance scifi/fantasy illustrator some 40 years later). And i really enjoyed it thoroughly.

So. I want the sequels. I think some of the changes and elements that they wove in from the later books, they were cool and I want to see them come to pass on film.

MarkMarch 15, 2012 7:17 AM

Although it was no,'Avatar',i thoroughly enjoyed it,as a fan of the original books as a youngster,I have waited years for the films to be made,I truly hope they continue with sequels.

ChrisApril 2, 2012 2:01 AM

Take me back to Barsoom,please,soon !

DebbieApril 24, 2012 5:12 PM

I loved the movie, and I want a sequel, Come over to the FB Group Take me back to barsoom, I want a John Carter Sequel, join and help out. We need fans of the movie to fly there JC Flag.

MichaelApril 28, 2012 6:09 PM

We need a sequal!

RoyMay 19, 2012 4:17 PM

You bet. Sequel requested. Click Like.